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Electric or gas? With regards to cars and kitchens.
Anyone have a hybrid car? Is it really an improvement? I heard the price you pay extra for the hybrid does not justify the savings in gas. On a similar subject, since gas is becoming such a problem, if you were buying a home, would you prefer an electric kitchen stove? What about home heating...would you go with elec. over gas?
Lori:

gas in my car, electric to cook with

T:

Unforturately, that may be the same for me. I have heard some bad things about the hybrids.

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I haven't heard really bad things, but nothing extraordinarily good either. I use electric to cook with and gas in the cars but we don't drive much, just to shop, small trips once or twice a year and hubby golfs in summer. Other than that, we don't put miles on our cars.

Lori:

I know a few people with hybrids and they say the cost of the car and the savings at the pump they are still in the red each month

Born Fool:

Prefer to cook with a gas stove because I get better (faster response) control of the temperature with which I cook. As to the hybrid....gas mileage is really good usually, depending on how you drive. Five to ten years out (depending on how you drive) the battery pack will need to be replaced (at a cost of several thousand dollars...though that cost is very likely to go down).

T:

yeah, my step brother told me the same thing about replacing the battery. I didnt believe him though, he likes to talk about subjects he doesnt know a lot about. Hmmm, maybe not getting a hybrid for the next car. IDK. By the time we go to do it, hopefully things will be better.

Born Fool:

The battery info was current as of last year when I was researching whether to buy for my family. Battery tech is changing rapidly and I suspect there will be a profit to be made in refurbishing older hybrids as well as unscrupulous people selling bad batteries.

Linda:

BF, I know what you mean about the immediate respons from gas, and it is difficult to adjust to cooking with electric, but it is also more dangerous than using electric. You can go off and leave a crock pot simmering all day but I wouldn't do that with a flame!

Linda:

Oh and about the hybrids... I don't know that much but wouldn't a hybrid give you double the maintenance having to maintain two seperate systems? I know an all electric vehicle is less maintenance, runs quieter and cleaner and if all you have to replace in that 5-10 years is a battery you're still way better off financially than a combustion engine. AND battery technology is improving greatly! Amazing things are taking place these days no doubt!

T:

Well, my wife is stuck with the car she has now for at least 3 more years. By then maybe we'll have a better idea. And tech. will have improved by then I am sure.

Linda:

I would go all electric car and all. But this might depend on where you live and what they're using to make your electricity. If its hydro or nuclear power that's fine but the majority of electricity producing plants are still using coal and petroleum products!! We need to get off gas! If we did it in a hurry in a big way the reserves would increase and the price would drop.

And its not just about the price anyway. This is a political factor in many ways as well because I believe the war in the middle east is mostly over the oil. But its also an environmental issue. AND if you go completely electric on the vehicle maintenance and repair are also cost factors. We just need better batteries now and that technology is coming along. Check out the tango. I its a pretty neat little car! Of course there are bigger ones but I think the tango is cute and I like that it can split lanes and park where others can't!

T:

Ah, the tango huh. The next car we buy will be for my wife and she likes little cars. I use an elec. stove in the apt. now and dont hate it as much as I thought I would. In fact, as far as the oven part goes, I like it more. Went to my cousin's for T-day and she had a very nice elec. range. Might to with elec. when we buy a home.
On another subject. Are you a paramedic? Why do I think you are?

Linda:

No. Wait, didn't you ask me this once before?
I did have first aid training in the Navy - I actually read my BMR and took and passed the test myself instead of just coppying someone else's like most of them did back then. I was on a repair locker and so learned a little more there, but I'm not an EMT.


I'm a substitute teacher right now, but have had many professions in the course of my life.

T:

I did, but dont remember you answering. I thought I asked after you had logged off or something. I must have you mixed up with someone then. Substitue teacher, paramedic.......its all the same lol. Kidding.

Linda:

I often leave an answer and take off and sometimes never go back to it because I answer so many, but I think I remember answering this question once before. I probably did go back to it after a time.

And while we do get a lot of kids needing to go to the nurse for various reasons and very occasionally actually see blood, its not usually the life threatening stuff an EMT deals with! Definitely not the sucking chest wounds and tournequet requiring blood gushers I was trained to deal with in the Navy. Not that I ever saw any of those either!


And I know you were kidding about them being the same, but on a more serious note I do believe the job I do is just as important! Even as 'just a sub' I believe teaching and training our youth is vitally important to the future of our country and our world. Of course being a responsible parent and grandparent is even more important in that respect. And I take that job very seriously. I think raising happy, righteous, civic minded, kind, caring, thinking, financially responsible adults is the most important job on this earth!

Geez, I got kinda carried away there didn't I?

T:

LOL, maybe a little. I was just making a joke, say...."Oh, they sound alike, no wonder I got em mixed up" kind of thing. Geez. I need some baby powder after than verbal spanking lol. I agree, teaching is one of those overlooked positions. Everyone expects the utmost quality, demands it, but dont even think about mentioning having to pay for it. People would rather have the latest sports car. Its the same for my profession.....nursing.

Linda:

I wasn't in the mind of reprimanding at all merely expressing an opinion and trying to make the link you joked about.

I was also in the nursing profession for a time even if it was only a cna. Its a great feeling helping others be comfortable in their last days and on your side of things helping them heal and stay well.

warlock:

Hello Michael:

After doing a cost benefits, the hybrid car has no way of having a payback timeline under 7 years. The cost of gas must hit about $7.45g to make the numbers work.

T:

Wow. Its like the gas benefits grocery stores are giving now. Sure, you save at the pump, but you have to spend like thousands at the store first.

Rick:

gas

Michelle:

Cook on gas. Just a preference.
I know nothing other than gas autos so gas there too.
Heating the house? Gas.
I'd prefer natural gas over anything else.

T:

huh. I think when we get a home, a chimney will be a must, keep gas prices down.

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