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Tangent Bill

Why is criticizing Christianity allowed, but Christians can't question other beliefs?

Wait:

Criticizing every belief should be allowed.

Sonnamae:

James,
Jesus was well loved and viscously hated. This is a hot subject even back then.
It is hard work.

Wait:

see my comment above.

Miloslav:

It is all part of the plan. It is said in the Bible that this will happen.

Angelo:

We are not willing to call Jesus a liar - therefore we are intolerant - lol. Wait until they find out just how intolerant Jesus is!

Guitarplayer:

I do all the time. However, when I do them in the only language these idiots understand, violation time. Go Figure

David:

Spoken like a true redneck.

W'd-U-Say:

GIT 'R DONE!

Sonnamae:

Apparently it is only a one way street. How sad!

Angelo:

Indeed

Whipsaw:

Christians can certainly question and criticize other beliefs, they have done so for about 1500 years. Christians are just getting a lot of criticism now because they have finally stopped killing everyone that disagrees with them.

Tangent Bill:

True Christians don't murder people. Jesus said that a tree is recognized by it's fruit, and to "love your neighbor as yourself" and "love your enemies and pray for them". I don't think that Jesus was a pacifist, but the Gospel is not supposed to be spread by the sword. I wonder why so many Muslims go around killing people?

Angelo:

Because it is supported by Satan. Mohammed received his information through demonic activity.

Whipsaw:

I agree that Christianity has to some extent surpassed Islam as a peaceful religion, but would mention that most Muslims tolerate Christians quite politely, they have been doing so for hundreds of years. There have been many times in history when Muslims could have killed a batch of Christians and didn't. The reverse is also true. Even now you may find Christians living in peace in many Muslim lands.

Wait:

Scarecrow, do you scare people in your family too with your idiotic talks. Think again.

Mindy-QnA-MVP:

Anyone can question anything here but once a question starts to deteriorate into an unpleasant argument then the community begins to report it and at some point it will be removed.

It is called inciting when people purposely needle and challenge others until unpleasantries get out of control.

Sunni:

Jude 1:15To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
16These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
17But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
18How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost...
Revelation 1:5And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
6And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Sonnamae:

That is nice DitzyDame

NUCKLEJAMMER:

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance." Article 18, Universal Declaration Of Human Rights, 1948 Most countries in the world ostensibly subscribe to this noble principle, which has been included many times in international declarations. It is estimated, however, that in numerous countries where intolerance and discrimination are hard realities, countless millions of people today do not enjoy religious freedom. On the other hand, many people live in multiracial, multiethnic, or multireligious societies where freedom is guaranteed by law and tolerance is seemingly enshrined in the nations’ culture.Yet, even in these places, some people are affected by threats to religious freedom. Religious discrimination, however, does not affect just religious minorities. Professor Abdelfattah Amor, Special Rapporteur on Religious Intolerance, of the UN Commission on Human Rights, considers that "no religion is safe from violation." It is quite likely, then, that intolerance and prejudice are commonly faced by some religions where you live.
Religious discrimination can take many forms. Some countries simply exclude all but one religion, making it, in effect, the State religion. In other countries, laws are passed restricting the activity of certain religions. Some lands have enacted laws that have been interpreted in an arbitrary way.

Sheldon:

Didn't Christians question and criticize other beliefs when they passed Proposition 8?

Tangent Bill:

Christians have the right to vote according to how we believe, just as the no on 8 people have the right to vote according to how they believe.

Sheldon:

I'm just saying, that's what Christians were doing, so religious people can't say that they "can't question other people's beliefs", because that is exactly what they did.

Penny:

just because its not allowed doesnt mean people dont do it

Lovely:

Hey Sheldon criticize away dude. That is one prop you lost!

Sheldon:

Hey, I'm not the one criticizing. I'm simply stating a fact. Oh sorry, I forgot, Christians don't believe in facts and truth.

Gray wolf:

The persecuted Christian character never gets old do it?

Tangent Bill:

I'm just saying that people criticize Christianity all the time, but if a Christian questions another's beliefs, we get in trouble.

Smokin' Joe:

You mean like the persecuted black man?

Gray wolf:

@Smokin' Joe you feel like persecuting some today. I was taught how racist labeled Martin Luther King Jr. a communist because he stepped out of his place. Sound familiar.

Penny:

just because its not allowed doesnt mean that people dont do it.

MamaV:

I just took a quick peek at your questions. You do not seem to understand what the QnA is for. The QnA was started to create a search engine for the MSN. Corp. Most of your questions are not seeking information, they seem to be trying to spread the word. While that is a noble cause, this is the wrong forum for that. I too am Christian, but I am also comfortable enough with my own faith and beliefs, that I can discuss other religions without judgment and condensation. I can agree to disagree, with out making some one feel less. Maybe you need to broaden the information you are seeking and get off religious topics all together. Is there anything else beside religion or how to met a nice women that you are interested in finding information on??? The QnA is not a chat room. It is to find information on a broad variety of topics. Broaden your questions to other topics. There is a lot more out there to be questioned. Have you ever looked at the Explore (tags) up at the top. Have a look around. Try not asking, just observe and answer for a while. And when you do answer, it is okay not to even bring up religion or that fact that you are a Christian. Try being a human being. (not trying to be harsh or hurtful here just trying to help you. Peace. :)

Tangent Bill:

I don't think that all your questions are seeking information. Also, my questions are tagged conversational. Please stop discriminating against my Christian beliefs, that is hateful and intolerant.

Tangent Bill:

I have the right to ask religious questions, it's called freedom of speech and religion.

Tangent Bill:

I have the right to mention the fact that i'm a Christian, that is what I believe and i'm not ashamed of it.

Tangent Bill:

By the way, since you're a Christian, i'm sure you agree with Jesus' words that He is the only way to Heaven: "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me".

MamaV:

Yes I do agree with them but I do not have to tell the world over and over again. I can have other discussions about other topics without bringing God the Bible, Jesus or any other religion can you.? You asked why your posts are getting removed I am trying to tell you why. No problem if you don't won't help. I will leave you alone, but remember when you are banned that I did try and help you. Peace. :)

Sunni:

MamaV I don't see this as an answer and I find it a bit harassing. He can ask any question he wants. There seems to be a theme with reporting Christian questions and the ones questioning the democrats but not the other way around so much.

Sheldon:

She wasn't being hateful OR intolerant. She was only making suggestions to you, in order to make your QnA experience better. And where in her answer did she discriminate against your beliefs?

And please stop discriminating against everyone who doesn't believe what you believe.

Sonnamae:

@MamaV
I did not know that some people could not ask certain questions!
In fact, Top contributors are people who've provided a high proportion of Best Answers for questions associated with one of the most popular tags.
If Top contributors can answer one type of question because they are knowledgeable in that area, then why can't someone knowledgeable in an area ask and respond in theirs?

Valentin Alsina News:

Hi folks----Will put my two cents in since this is an "information" site---here's some information. I don't agree with MamaV's point of view about James. James provides alot of accurate information regarding the Bible and Religion. He isn't perfect---no one is. But He sure didn't deserve the response that MamaV gave. He has every right to share his knowledge on the topics. I for one appreciate his knowledge. I have not seen him act inhumane. His views so far have been biblically sound----so what's the problem? If you want great info about the Bible----i would surely pass the question on to James---see what He has to say-----It usually is very noteworthy. Uh---so what's the problemo <scratching head>

Valentin Alsina News:

MamaV--by the way----even though i disagree with your comment----I ain't mad at ya! You seem like a good lady!

W'd-U-Say:

But he's not sharing knowledge. He's sharing biased opinion and outright falsehoods and presenting them as fact... those of us who disagree with what he says, as MamaV implies, have had to repeatedly tell him this. As soon as we do that, he either
a) dismisses it, and 3 weeks later posts the SAME question, or
b) claims religious discrimination.

MamaV is one of the few Christians on this site that realizes that this is not a forum to proselytize and preach. She offers her beliefs and opinion and understands that this is an open forum. James has a VERY hard time grasping that.

James and chriscal, for your own sakes, PLEASE try to shake yourself out of the fundamentalist mentality; it's giving you this fallacious impression that you're being persecuted in some way.

Valentin Alsina News:

Neal---your issue is that you disagree with James---amd maybe even me as well. That is the beauty of Freedom of Speech. Everyone has the opportunity to voice their opinion. If you disagree with my opinion--there is no law that says you have to agree with me. Likewise there is no law that says the only good content on the internet is what YOU think it is. Sorry ---but there are different opinions than yours out there. And they all have the right to be expressed.

Smokin' Joe:

The anti-christian propaganda is more effective.

David:

Could it possibly do with the way you choose to criticize other religions?

Tangent Bill:

I hear you criticize creationism and religion a lot.

David:

I do back it up with facts, James, which is something that you do not do.

Tangent Bill:

Yes, I back my stuff up with facts.

Lovely:

You haven't provided one fact Jerry just a lot of BS and your personal hatreds!

David:

It is quite obvious that you are blind to truth, Brother Blade and your interpretation of me is 180° skewed. But I do appreciate your opinion.

W'd-U-Say:

I don't, Jerry. It's not an opinion, it's just being an ignorant bigot. Jerry is very knowledgeable, objective, and cites his sources carefully. If he doesn't know something, he POINTS IT OUT. He does NOT claim divine/absolute knowledge, something that can easily be asserted from any of James' redundant posts about creationism/Jesus/apologetics. Blade, you are very steadily losing any respect I had for you.

Lovely:

The UN established a law that makes it a crime to question Islam.

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