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Leese

29 year CIA field commander Robert Baer said evidence points to 9/11 being a inside job.............

..........publically yesterday in a world wide radio broadcast on the Alex Jones show as well as in other previous interviews, should we take his message seriously?? why or why not?? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=robert+baer+911+inside+job
IrishGreen94:

That's a load of bull butter.

Leese:

what is a load of bull butter, the fact that he said it?? heard it for myself live yesterday. the audio is available on the net and I've provided you with several links that reported on it. your not one of those guys that still thinks we will find WMD's in iraq are you? think iraq had anything to do with 9/11? think that iraq posed an imminent threat to the United States? now that's a load of bull butter.....lol

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7183924802105690229&q=bus​h+lies+montage&total=13&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=s​earch&plindex=0

Gbob_north:

Iraq violated it's terms of UNCONDITIONAL surrender, Clinton should have done something when it started, no, it's not connected to 9/11 it's just a coincidence that we had a president for 8 years do nothing.

Leese:

hey gbob, nice to see you again, I've always enjoyed mixing it up with you. there was no term of of unconditional surrender. they were a sovereign nation, surrender for what? what did they do to us that was a threat to our country? nothing. we invaded based on lies. the iraq invasion/occupation violated international law.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=iraq+war+violated+internation​al+law&btnG=Google+Search

Gbob_north:

Surrender after the US had to drive them out of Kuwait, and there WERE terms, they were to allow weapons inspectors into their country and if they ever barred those inspectors they would be open to legally be invaded by any country in the UN or America.

I thought you did your homework...

Leese:

well it seems you have not done yours. the orders were to withdraw from kuwait, which they did do and did not return. further , weapons inspectors were in iraq and had a total run of the place. further, we ordered the weapons inspectors out of iraq even though they wanted to stay, and had repeatedly said they did not think there were any WMD's in the country.

now can you tell me the standards for declaring war? there are only two of them. neither were met if we used the truth. so they lied.

Genesis:

yes we should, it is something that i have felt, not exactly known, but felt from all the evidence presented

Leese:

agreed, thanks for the comment, nice to see your still here, youve made some great contributions , your a vet right?

J.E.T.:

there are a lot of theories about 911, as the nice little sheep we are, it is our doodie to believe the things our government tells us

Leese:

as sheep, your correct, as patriots and true Americans, we need to demand answers and justice.

J.E.T.:

i agree, please pardon my sarcasm...

Leese:

not a problem, i get it all the time. i let it roll off. father forgive them for they know not what they do.......right? its all in the name of good fun for the most part, I'm not in the least bit offended, thanks for the comment.

Lovely:

You don't have to believe the government Roland-you can choose to believe any conspiracy theory you want! Ain't America great?

Lovely:

Why don't all these in the know people tell that to the wives and realtives who received phone calla from their loved ones before the planes crashed into the WTC, the Pentagon and the ground in Pennsylvania.

Oops I forgot all those aboard the planes were in on the cover up and died with their muslim cohorts!

Really how stupid are you-really?

Leese:

do you know anything about vice changer technology? look in to it. when you call your mother do you tell her your first and last name? "hi mom, this is blade smith mom" you believe its me , don't you mom"? is that how you speak when you call your mother? heres a example of how it works, in this video president bush is calling alex jones.......anyone can do this.....you can buy a voice changer on the net.....
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4522747900548437860&q=bus​h+calls+alex+jones&total=200&start=0&num=10&so=0&t​ype=search&plindex=4

Lovely:

Your ignorant websites don't prove anything except they leave out the facts and yo mama must wear combat boots just so she can step on your ugly nogging everyday!

Leese:

you've got to be one of the dumbest people I've encountered on the net, seriously dull blade. are you saying that he did not make this statement?? i have personally heard him say it it twice now in two different interviews. he has published three different books now saying these things. you ca listen to two different interviews of him saying these things on the internet. the latest interview was done just done on a world wide radio interview just this past thursday on the alex jones radio show. but your saying he did not say these things.....wow, you can lead a horse to water..........

Lovely:

Why doesn't your hero Ron Paul come out in support of a government conspiracy to bring down the WTC?

And how do you explain the phone calls made to the loved ones of the men and women who personally spoke to some of them on the very day the planes flew into the WTC and Pentagon.

There are phone records of those same conversations in the files of the phone companies the people were subscribing to.

Explain that with any clarity and with out using the standard explanation of the conspiracists that they done it with mirrors BS!

I am also an explosives expert and worked with the Army (Civil Service) for 23 years. I know that it takes a lot of planning, men, explosives and time to set explosive charges properly to destroy anything-much less two huge WTC buildings that you want to fall precisely in one big heap! And that work would be impossible to do and remain hidden considering the number of men, drilling, flame cutting and other task needed to bring the buildings down.

Get real man and stop believing every lie you want to hear as truth! There is much more evidence and reasons to dismiss a conspiracy than to believe there was one!

Leese:

what is tharmate, and how it it different than tharmite? and how are both used? exactly? explain??........"explosives expert"

Leese:

explain this phone call......you act like the phone call trick is difficult or something......anyone can do it........do you actually think bush made this call to alex jones?? further, if you actually hear the actual phone calls, when you call your mother, do you tell her your first and last name and then ask her if she believes its you?? do some research, learn a thing or two
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1770740603002055096&q=bush​+calls+alex+jones&total=196&start=0&num=10&so=0&ty​pe=search&plindex=1

Lovely:

It would take so many thermite grenades to be planted correctly and then have them all burn equally as to bring down the building in a single pile is absurd! And thermite is not an explosive, but an incendiary used to destroy by fire entire cities in Japan and Germany in WWII, but that thermite was placed in large bombs and dropped from allied aircraft by the tons in hopes it would set massive fires that could not be brought under control by local fire departments. Bombs that size would not been placed in the WTC for ythe obvious reasons-they are too large to hide!

And a thermite grenade was designed to burn into engines of military vehicles, guns, and howitzers to damage them to the extent they are rendered unfit for use ever again.

Have you ever observed a thermite grenade after pulling the pin and watching it burn on a sheet of 1/4 inch plate. I have and it could not even burn through metal that thin. It only left a large burn spot in it that would have damaged a target, but certainly would not burn through it.

Every time you open your mouth about munitions and explosives you show how ignorant you really are about the way explosives work and the very fine techniques required to carry out a task of the magnitude required to bring down even one WTC Building-but two is absolutely impossible with out the entire world seeing what you are trying to do.

Stop being stupid there wasn't a conspiracy no matter what crap you have come to believe!

And you continue to ignore the fact that Ron Paul has never questioned the official report made by the government and the reason is that he knows the official report and the reality of the WTC was carried out by terrorists acting against the people and government of the US!.

And the google sh!t you think is truth is so ridiculous to trained experts that you are a fool for buying into the lies.

My God! You take the cake!

Lovely:

I watched the video of a bad imitation of George Bush!

The voice could have fooled a lot of people especially the ones who want to believe in such ridiculous crap, but do you think it would have fooled even one close member of his family?

What about you? Do you think a phony voice could influence you to believe it was your wife or daughter on the phone?

I think not! Not anymore than those people who received phone calls from loved ones trapped in the towers and those whose loved ones talked with their wives or parents before the doomed planes they were aboard crashed or flew into the WTC and pentagon!

Read my lips: There was no conspiracy! It was an act of terrorism carried out by people who hate US!

Leese:

yah, your no controlled demolition expert, that's for sure you liar, you have not told me the difference between thermite and thermate. thermate was what was used in the trade centers. its a fact, proven and tested. ill show you thermate in action. by the way, thermate is what you get when you mix sulfur with thermate.
phones calls, who denied the phone calls were real in the towers? not me. however there are huge holes and problems with the calls that came from the planes do the research.
THERMATE VIDEO TO FOLLOW

Leese:
Leese:

as for ron paul? why does he not speak up on 9/11? why does he not support the theories? well the term "conspiracy theories " is a term only used by those who like to not argue the facts, look at the evidence, and are part of the guilty party. Ron Paul does support a real investigation. by the way, he is a man who has been elected to congress for ten terms by the people.
ron paul on 9/11
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=ron+paul+9%2F11&hl=en&si​tesearch=

Leese:

edit from up top ....thermate is what you get when you add sulfer to thermite.....typo

Lovely:

Your inundation of biased Jones videos are nothing more than a desperate attempt to try an old trick where "if you can't blind them with brilliance, you baffle them with BS, and you are notorious at that aren't you dimwit?

There is hardly any difference between thermite and thermate, they both contain the main ingredient thermite and only about 2% sulfur make up each batch, and neither is an explosive which I have explained to you several times, but they are of the pyrotechnic class which is also used in incendiaries such as thermate bombs and TH3 Grenades.

And I am not surprised that sulfur was found in the ruins at the WTC, the simple explanation is that steel and aluminum both contain sulphur in their chemical makeup and with the amount of melted and molten aluminum found after the airplanes crashed into the Twin towers and brought them down it isn't odd that a lot of sulphur was smelled in the mess!

I am an expert on explosives and army munitions. I helped to develop many of the methods to demilitarize some munitions which were without a demil process when I went to work for the Army 27 years ago!

And I have no doubt I forgotten more about explosives than your Mr Jones ever knew.

Neither explosives or Thermate brought down the WTC towers! They were destroyed as a result of jet aircraft guided by terrorists pilots into both buildings.

Wise up and leave the technical stuff to those who know how explosives really work!

Amazing guy:

As the mom of a young marine, willing to sacrifice his life, I don't want to believe the claim. As a patriotic American, I do not want to believe that we have people in power who have agendas that completely disregard the lives of their citizens. But as a realistic human being I can not in good conscience claim that it is impossible. It would not be the first time in history, in this country or around the world, that leaders have been so blinded by the visions of power that they act in unforgivable ways. However, until the investigations are able to uncover enough evidence to prove it without a shadow of a doubt, neither can I in good conscience try to promote the theory. My heart is with America and our people regardless of what is proven and if it should be proven that any of our leaders had knowledge or involvement in it, then it becomes even more important for the American people to unite, to heal and to CHANGE things. Terrorist from outside or terrorist from inside. It doesn't really matter. The point remains a tragedy that changed us forever occurred. And now more than ever we need things to be different. I only wish I had the answer to how that happens.

Lovely:

Well said Angel!

Leese:

well angel, i appreciate the comment, however, have you looked at the evidence?? there is a sick amount of it. investigations??? what investigations?? the criminals control the investigations, familure with the 9/11 commission report?? do you understand how it was put together?? the fact is that there are so many in the CIA , the FBI, NORAD, congress, the senate, foreign governments, scientist, physicist, engineers, fireman, policeman, .......i could go on and on, the real terrorist are at the highest levels of our government, but do some research, don't take my word for it, look at the evidence the people I've mentioned are presenting and begging you to look at.

Lovely:

If you look at his "evidence" Angel-you'll be reading Alex Jones websites-a prime source that 9/11 was caused by our very own government- and that is the biggest lie ever perpetrated by enemies of the state.

Amazing guy:

I certainly haven't done what I would call sufficient research to draw a conclusion which is why I haven't made one yet. I am not all that familiar with Alex Jones but I have read a number of disturbing claims and there was a video posted here on QnA that spanned from the times of Jesus to the 9/11 attack and touched on numerous conspiracies. I'm not sure what I think of that video but I do know it left me feeling oddly cold. Im not rejecting your claim, sadly I have to be honest enough to say that should it come out as a proven and accepted fact that 9/11 was an inside job I will not be surprised. OUTRAGED and terribly saddened but not surprised. I read through your debates above on explosives and there were a number of testimonies in the video I referred to that talked about the way the world trade center towers came down and it was disturbing but I am not qualified enough to know how accurate the information being given is. Bottom line is I am not disputing you INRP I am reserving judgment and praying that the theory is only a theory as the alternative is just so horrific. Regardless of whether it is true or not true the one thing I do believe is that there are people in power, people in the banking industry among others who do have intentions of world power and control and while I do believe they orchestrate many things, including war, I sincerely hope they didn't orchestrate 9/11.

Gonzo:

Alright a good one. (rolling up sleeves) Not Ron once again you are reading Alex Jones. Tisk, tisk, tisk. Alex has lost his marbles. Prison Planet, Bohemian Grove, inside job, skull and bones, and the Illuminati. Don't buy it. Will make a good hollywood movie. Alex missed his calling.

Leese:

once again, your putting a fox noise spin on the truth. we are talking about what a 28 year CIA field commander had to say about it.......not alex jones.......but of course Alex Jones reported it as well, why wouldn't he, he's a great American patriot.....

Lovely:

SO this CIA agent which once worked for an agency in which you think was one of the conspirators who planned the bombing of the WTC is noW a man of complete honesty and truth. lol!

That's your case for the truth and it doesn't hold water considering the man cannot be trusted to tell the truth under your own logic and beliefs about the CIA.

But, if you want to Make money and sell a lot of books this is the dead horse that will bring home some bacon, because there are a lot of you "patriots" out there who will spend hard to make the man rich!

Leese:

according to your logic, one bad cop makes them all bad cops?? as for book deals, what about all those who have not written books? in the CIA, the FBI, congress, the senate......what was their motive???

Lovely:

Lets talk about you man and his motives-he is the subject of your question! And he has a motive! He is mad at the CIA for whatever reason and the primary reason is that book sales will soar if he provides his CIA ID as proof that the conspiracy is true.

Matt Schaffer:

nothing about to 9/11 surprises me anymore...our "fearless leaders" are only looking out for themselves...we, the people, don't count...

Leese:

hi files girl........thanks for the comment, ....my daughter enjoys reading your qna.........and so do i ........shhhh......wink

Matt Schaffer:

aww!!! thanx!!! tee hee!! who's your daughter? is she qnaer also?

Leese:

yes , you kinda look a little like her to tell you the truth. my wife is from Puerto Rico......my daughter mostly just reads everything on here without signing in.....she reads a lot like her poppie ...lol.....she is suzyQ.....shhhhh......dont tell anyone....lol....her photo is on her avatar too....check her out

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